With The Lord

2 Corinthians 5:4

For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened:
not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon,
that mortality might be swallowed up of life.

In John 14:3, when is it that they will be with the Lord; when they die, or when He will come again?

When does He receive them unto Himself; when they die, or when He comes again?

Where does this receiving take place; here on earth where He comes, or somewhere in Heaven?

In 1 Corinthians 15:23, when is it that those in Christ are made alive; when they die, or at His coming?

If people go to be with the Lord at death, then why do they have to be resurrected and caught up to meet Him? (1 Thessalonians 4:17)

If they had been present with the Lord during death, would it not be more fitting if The Word had said that they come with Him rather than to meet Him?

When is it that they are ever to be with the Lord, after death or after Resurrection?

When are the saints to be presented to the Father, after death or after Resurrection? See 2 Corinthians 4:14.

When folks are dead, are they in the naked state, or are they present with the Lord? (2 Corinthians 5:1-10)

Did the saints labor to be accepted by Him; (1) In the naked state? (2) Present with Him? (3) Absent from Him? Which two would you say?

Do they appear before the judgment seat in the naked state or when present with the Lord?

Does Scripture ever make the statement that any would ever appear before Him in the naked state (without a body)? Give reference.

At the present time, are all the dead in Christ with the Lord or in the naked state?

What about David? (Acts 2:29, Acts 2:34)

Now check carefully. Did God say that absent from the body is to be present with the Lord? (2 Corinthians 5:8)

Does present with the Lord apply to the dead in Christ at His coming and living believers at His coming as well?

If so, then does that explain how Paul could be absent from the body and be present with the Lord without going through the naked state?

Now that brings us to another question. What was the hope of Paul at this time; to die and to be Resurrected, or to be here at the coming of the Lord? {1 Corinthians 15:51, 1 Thessalonians 4:15)

In light of the above, to be absent from the body, as Paul used it in 2 Corinthians 5:8, does not refer to death at all but rather to the exchange of bodies for living believers when the Lord comes. Is this right? But could it refer to death in the case of those fallen asleep?

If that is true, then is there any Scripture that says that dead folks are with the Lord?

Suppose that the dead are with the Lord. Why bother with a Resurrection? Does 1 Corinthians 15:32 recognize any existence without Resurrection?

Resurrection is The Hope of the believer. Without it, there is No Hope. The unbeliever has no such expectation but judgment. He does not have life.

Note that all passages cited above are outside The Dispensation of The Mystery.

Would you be shocked to learn that the Scriptures do not speak of an Immortal Soul. No other teaching has caused as much confusion and error as this great lie. Genesis 3:4 states "And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:"  Find out the truth about death that the Devil does not want you to know! Click Death & The Great Lie

  • The Word of God makes known The Lord Jesus Christ; Who declares to the Believer our Heavenly Father that we might know Him. God has revealed Himself not according to religious viewpoints but reveals Himself by the written Word.  The Light that illuminates our path makes it possible for all who are willing to walk with Him and to see His clear instructions to live victorious lives in Christian Faith and Practice.
  • Believer.com is a Bible Study Center whose goal is to base all of our posted teachings on Scripture and not the traditions and commandments of men.